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Poster: jeffuk Date: January 15, 2008 02:51:51am
Forum: feature_films Subject: looking for The Pure Hell Of St. Trinians Pd film

Does anyone know of any PD sites that have the St Trinian's films for downloading?

The Belles Of St. Trinians: (Dir. Frank Launder, 1954)
Blue Murder At St. Trinians (Dir. Frank Launder, 1957)
The Pure Hell Of St. Trinians (Dir. Frank Launder, 1960)
The Great St. Trinians Train Robbery (Dir. Sidney Gilliat/Frank Launder, Colour, 1966)

Believe that they are now in the Pd section any info would be appreciated thanks Jeff

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Poster: LordOfTheExacto Date: January 15, 2008 06:21:16pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: looking for The Pure Hell Of St. Trinians Pd film

I have the first one on VHS, but I don't know how I'd encode it. I can see what I can find out, though. Assuming, of course, that it's PD. Archive-ists?

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Poster: killer_09 Date: January 15, 2008 10:09:52pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: looking for The Pure Hell Of St. Trinians Pd film

i found sumthing here http://www.mininova.org/tor/422418

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Poster: RadioFreePeru Date: January 16, 2008 07:25:57am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: looking for The Pure Hell Of St. Trinians Pd film

I doubt there's any PD sites with this film, since it's under copyright:
http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=1&ti=1,1&Search%5FArg=pure%20hell%20of%20st%20trinian%27s&Search%5FCode=TALL&CNT=25&PID=10684&SEQ=20080116102411&SID=1
Pure hell of St. Trinian's. By Vale Film Productions, Ltd.
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000403123 / 1988-11-07
Renewal registration for: PA0000170643 / 1961-01-23 (in notice: 1960)
Title: Pure hell of St. Trinian’s. By Vale Film Productions, Ltd.
Copyright Claimant: Weintraub Entertainment (Rights) Ltd. (PWH)

Variant title: Pure hell of St. Trinian’s.
Names: Vale Film Productions, Ltd.
Weintraub Entertainment (Rights) Ltd.

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Poster: LordOfTheExacto Date: January 16, 2008 09:48:45am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: looking for The Pure Hell Of St. Trinians Pd film

RFP, did you see anything there about the other films in the series?

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Poster: RadioFreePeru Date: January 16, 2008 12:25:20pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Status on all St. Trinians as Pd or not

Looks like "Belles of St. Trinian's" (1954),Blue Murder at St. Trinian's (1957), and even Wildcats of ST. Trinian's (1980) not under copyright according to US records. There is a copyright renewal (albeit late) for:
The great St. Trinian's train robbery. By Braywild, Ltd.
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000668381 / 1994-04-25 (RFP note- orig copyright had expired 7 weeks before)
Renewal registration for: PA0000213090 / 1966-03-04
Title: The great St. Trinian’s train robbery. By Braywild, Ltd.
Copyright Claimant: Lumiere (Rights) Ltd. (PWH)

Variant title: The great St. Trinian’s train robbery.
Names: Braywild, Ltd.
Lumiere (Rights) Ltd.

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Poster: jonc Date: January 16, 2008 01:41:51pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Status on all St. Trinians as Pd or not

That's interesting. My understanding was that once a copyright expired the work was public domain and it could not be reclaimed. Is there an exception for this?

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Poster: RadioFreePeru Date: January 17, 2008 04:20:52am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Status on all St. Trinians as Pd or not

That's my understanding, too. There are many items whose copyrights were "renewed" after expiry, in some cases as much as a year later, including (among others) most of the season 1 Sgt Preston episodes.
Think I'll UL a nice noire film with invalid renewal, and see if it stays up

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Poster: killer_09 Date: January 17, 2008 07:53:10am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Status on all St. Trinians as Pd or not

its amazing that once these copyrights expire and the films belong to the public, that the government is willing to hand the rights back, since the film never belonged to the government.

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